Episode 12. Puffin Noodle Soup with Jeffrey D Watters and Mark Carew

It's the finale of season one for Legacy; Survival Stories. This week host Dan Latremouille welcomes back friends of the show Mark Carew and Jeffrey D. Watters for a more light hearted episode. Dan's taken a different approach this week. He's got a pocket of particularly "important" questions that lead to plenty of entertaining stories.

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You're going down, going down. Legacy; Survival Stories. Welcome, welcome, welcome. My name is Dan Latremouille, and this is another excellent episode of Legacy; Survival Stories. As a matter of fact, folks, this is going to be the end of our season one. So this is our Season one finale. And in recognition of that incredible fact, we've brought back some of the stars of season one, including none other than Mark Carew and JD Waters. So that's Jeff Waters, by the way. So we'll just do a quick recap on Mark, who is a longtime mariner and oil and gas worker. He started as a commercial diver. He worked his way up. He's been all over the world doing boats and oil and gas work. And Jeff Waters, J.D. is a longtime mariner as well. All over the world as well. Thirty something years, I think, 33. My wife keeps reminding me. I bet she does. Thirty three years. I think the last large section of that has mostly been chief mate stuff. Chief mate stuff laying fiber optic cable mostly. OK, that's fantastic. So here we are now and we're taking a different tact on this episode. So I give these guys when they were joining us today a little bit of a precursor that we're not doing the gritty, horrifying near-death experiences, although depending on how these questions go, there could be some nearer to the answers. But we're taking a different tact and we're going to explore some maybe of the more humorous aspects of survival and emergency situations. So basically, I'm going to pose some questions and some scenarios, and then we'll let the discussion develop as it as it does and rolls into whatever interesting stories or jokes come out of it. So let's begin. Nice and easy. Here's what I need. And Mark, we'll start with you. OK, I need tools from the kitchen that you could use to survive a shipwreck. Oh. Yeah, cold, cold air. You need to think about. Yeah. Straight out of the blue. So there's probably some obvious easy low hanging fruit there. Well, I'm thinking a blender for my drinks. Is that for cocktails or are you assuming that you're shipwreck is going to turn out better than most shipwrecks does? I'm going in his lifeboat for getting the murder to it. OK, let's put context and let's let's go ahead and say that you're in a lifeboat, OK? You have you have, you know. And let's go ahead and say we were on the Titanic because everyone's familiar with the Titanic. You're now in a lifeboat from the Titanic. And if you could have grabbed some things from the kitchen of the Titanic, what would be like if you had the choice, the whole kitchen? Is there all tools or appliances and and whatever. And let's let's pretend that you could use power if you needed to on the lifeboat. So what would you grab me? I'd grab water for sure. OK, tuna fish is something that I always have on the back of my mind when I'm if I'm thinking about abandoning, I've even seen YouTube's where you don't need a can opener . You can rub it against a rock for a long enough time and you can get the cover up. So wait. Are you talking about tin tuna? Tin tuna? Yeah. Have you ever seen that? I have not. So you take the tent and you lay it on a rock or some hard surface and you keep rubbing it and then the lid pops off. So it's kind of like a good skill to have a case here every summer with a tuna fish. You know, tuna rubbing, that is that is a fine skill. But it's actually funny that you would go to tuna, tinned tuna. It is having a field day with this, because, you know, when I when I was thinking, you know, the kitchen, I thought here I thought there's there's knives and tool type things in there. And you're and you're like, I want the tinned tuna. Well, you got to eat. Right? You know, you can. Yeah. So obviously a knife would be good. No, no. You don't have a knife. You took your tinned tuna. That's all ahead. Well, now we'll give you we'll give you some water and tuna. That's my answer. OK, njt. Well, what would you add to that if you could? Peanut butter. Oh, that peanut butter. You don't need a knife. You know, hopefully it's got a screw top and I don't have to rub it on a rock. By the way, Mark, where are you going to get a rock on the lifeboat, by the way? I wasn't going down. I thought of it, I thought you said it was an island. Did you say it was an island? I certainly did not. I'm sure I heard island. It was it was a shipwreck. Oh, shipwreck. Maybe I just pictured myself on an island after the ship. All right. So Long Island life. All right. So if it's a life boat, OK, so we got water, tuna and we've got peanut butter. You want to make butter? You want to take anything else? Hmm. Well, he's already got the blender for the margaritas, so I can't drive that. Yeah, knives are always a good one. You can always use a knife for something. OK. All right. Well, I'll tell you what. We'll leave it. We'll leave it at that for now. So we got water, tuna, peanut butter knives. And we might we might revisit that, OK, as the stories evolve here. There was actually there was a was a chef's knife on one of the ships. I took it away from the chief cook and he was absolutely aghast. I took over. It would have been a good one to have because it had the wooden handle and it had the duct tape that was holding the handle onto it. And I asked, how do you clean that? He said, oh, we clean it every day. I said, you clean the duct tape? No, we put fresh duct tape on every morning. So I could had duct tape. I could have a little bit of wood and I would have had a knife. I would have I got three tools and one to three and one that would have been spared. But you have a knife and an ax and lifeboat anyway. Yeah. The axson lifeboats to serve for crowd control anyway. Attitude, adjustment. Attitude adjustment. All right. So let's go down a different path, but still from the residential side, the accommodation side of a ship. So now let's say, what are the things you would take from your bedroom into a survival situation? So what things from your bedroom could you use as a survival tool? This isn't necessarily a family show. So you got a little bit of latitude here, but. Oh, dear. Yeah. J.D., we're going to start with you on this one. I'm going to grab whatever book was I was reading because it'll be escapism. I can get in the boat and something to stave off the loneliness. Or if I'm with the crowd of them, I can tune them out. So you're grabbing a book? I'm grabbing a book. OK. All right. Any particular genre? Any particular are you talking like Tolstoy, something that you can that's going to take you eight days to read? Absolutely. I could be out there for 30 days in that lifeboat. That's what that life raft is certified for 30 days. So I got a warm piece. If I have that in the long. Something with some something with some heft. Yeah. OK, Mark, what are you taking me? I'm going for my toothbrush and my toothpaste because after a meeting, all that tuna fish, my breath is going to be real stinky. So you're going to be the one person on this lifeboat that's got a nice minty fresh. But what's really in your cabin? And there's nothing in there. You have. You got your toiletries up in the bathroom, so pillows. You don't want to grab the extra blankets for warmth from car. There you go, ma'am. Your pajamas, your toothbrush is not bad, which you can also fashion into a shank. You know, protect yourself if you need to. Well, listen, you might need that toothbrush as a shank when everyone else is eyeball in your tooth on day to day three or four and no one else is eating anything and they're all starting over. There's either be shady eyeball for that, too. Oh, my. OK. All right. Next question if. And we're going to go back to Mark for this. OK. If you're going to be stuck in a life raft for the next, you don't know how long you've abandoned ship. You're going to be in a life raft. It might be it might be tomorrow. It might be weeks, might be months before you get rescued. What member of the Looney Tunes, if you can only choose one and you have to choose one. What member of the of the Looney Tunes are you going to take on board with you? Oh, that would be the Foghorn Leghorn. Remember that guy? Boy, I say, boy, you're in the wrong lifeboat, boy. So he would keep you entertained? Without a doubt. He'd be just going on and on and on. I think that would be definitely Elmer Foud would be good to him. He'd be good for a laugh. He'd be hunting wabbit. And if he comes armed, so he comes out, you can protect your ship or your lifeboat from I don't know, I guess pirates are probably not really stalking a lot of lifeboats. Oh, no. I've seen them steal lifeboats before, but yeah. Stealing lifeboats. What? Oh, yeah. When we were over in West Africa, they came out alongside of us. They had a lifeboat. And I don't want to know where the lifeboat came from. So wait. They they were they came alongside. They were already you know, they were in a lifeboat. They were trying to sell us local wares and items, and they had a lifeboat. It was an open man, probably got a fundamental open lifeboat. So like a big old Titanic style, Titanic style, um, a fiberglass one. They had a hole cut in the back and they had a an outboard motor shoved down through the middle because the lifeboats won't sink. It didn't sink. And they had a five gallon bucket and the guy was standing beside the bucket was open top and there's a hose and that was the gas tank. Oh, wait, so empty and open again in an open lifeboat. I'm with you. And by the back seat they had already the rudder was long since gone. They actually cut a hole in the bottom of the boat and put a outboard motor down through like a nasima thing drive. So just kind of gender in there, jammed it in there. And they had a five gallon bucket full of gasoline, which is slopping all over the place. And the guy has got the fuel instead of having the fuel tank. He's got a hose coming off the engine stuck into the top of the five gallon tank bucket. You got to give points for creativity. Creativity. Absolutely. You know what the. Now, let's say that the fuel tank, that's probably not going to be, you know, anything because it may not have been soulless approval. But the actual the idea of I mean, you know, because, you know, life boat doesn't sink so kind of hole in it . And Jim just ran out for bottom. That's actually not the worst idea I've ever heard. You know what my grandfather did? That was his story in Newfoundland. It was an open motor. What he did is cut a hole in the bottom of the boat. And he had a vertical box. May trunking. Yeah. Trunking above the waterline. He put his engine down and that's how he had an engine on the back of his story, because you couldn't get along chank outboard motor. And that that's what he had. So that's kind of what I grew up with. Interesting. So it's and I thought these guys had an original idea. No, no, no, no. Fees were way ahead of that one. No fees have long been at the forefront. Oh, that's fantastic. All right. OK, so that actually where where we at Looney Tunes. Looney Tunes. J.D., if you had to pick one. I think Roger Rabbit. Roger Rabbit, Roger Rabbit is not alone, and he's determined there is a fairly famous rabbit that's among the Looney Tunes. This isn't a family show is. What's up? Yeah, Thakkar carrots and such. Yeah, bugs. Bunny rabbits, too. Wouldn't be too bad. No, you can do that. You told me I was when you said fogger Langhorn. I was thinking to eat them. I thought you were saving, you know, for food in a couple of days. Alibrandi, I like the way you think. Probably tastes like a. You read like one. I don't know. I did taste just like Pogo and or series. Yeah. They walked it up the gangway and they would say, we're not keeping a pet on board. It's OK. It's OK. Good soup. They think chicken. The next day when we had the soup, it tastes like chicken. And that's when they told me what it was. Yeah. Hmm. Interesting. Not bad with a little bit of green onions. I think I would I would eat iguana or I have no issues with that. There's some a pigeon once. That was weird. Oh. Which I only eat because how often in your life are going to get the chance to eat pigeon? And there it is on the menu. This was in Vanuatu and there's pigeon on the menu. So I well, I'm never going to see this again, so I've got to try it. Needless to say, I'll order myself something regular so I could so that I could try the the pigeon and then immediately kind of shuffle that plate off to the side. Well, I ended up in the starter menu in the Faroe Islands was Puffin Noodle Soup. It was rather spicy. Puffins like Puff and parents like we have a boat here. Is there any other kind of buffet? I apparently not. Berlin? No. Once again, Newfoundlanders eat them. They're not supposed to, but they get caught in the turn in the net. So they actually dove down and then they get caught in the gillnets. And it's a somewhat of a delicacy. Me, the bycatch. Yeah. They're kind of a weird bird because they don't they kind of suck like they're not good at being a bird. Like they don't fly very well. Don't they taste like Fruit Loops? I had this spicy fruit loops. And that's that's the one redeeming quality about puffins. Is there is their flavor. Yeah. I mean, I was sitting there. Here I am with the starter menu in in the Faroe Islands. And they're there. We started with the PAFA noodle soup. And I'm a meat. And it's like it's little spicy and it's it's actually quite good. I think these are protected where I live. Oh, they are. They are protected. Yeah, they are here for sure, because it's only like two places in the whole province. You can even see them. There's a Pearl, Pearl, Alan or SEAL Island, the one outside myhome bay, like outside Chester, the violence there. And then there's a spot on Cape Breton and Cape Breton is and Peperomia Cove or somewhere. And that's it was the only place to see them. OK, all right. Well, that was that was a good question, Mary. He said rabbit. I said rooster, OK. He spoke legs taste just like chicken. And now I've got to think if I was going to pick a Looney Tunes. Yeah. You know what? Give me give me give me the road runner. Yeah. He's been evading he's been evading his feet for far too long. And on a lifeboat, even the road runner is not going to run anybody else. All right. OK, so next question, and this is one that I think is going to get some good conversation going. All right. So and J.D., you're up first. Oh. Name a food you would not want to consume before you're going to be in a life raft for an extended period. Oh, God, don't let it be Mexican night the night before. Now, if, by the way, for the folks back home in a life raft, even the heartiest most stote of sailor is going to have some real issues with seasickness. You you don't have a good view of the horizon. You don't get fresh air you're in and a little bobbing rubber bouncy thing out there in the middle of the ocean. Everybody gets seasick over a period of time in a life raft. Everybody. My grandfather used to say to me, he asked me once he was a captain and he asked me if I got seasick. I said, well, I haven't got seasick yet. I don't get seasick. He said, no, you haven't gotten seasick yet. You just haven't been a rough enough. And then I got out in the rough stuff and I threw up to the point I threw up blood. It's like, OK, that's what he was talking about. Hmm. Oh, yeah, definitely Mexican night. I don't think I'd want anything spicy, greasy, anything with refried beans. And then 25 people in a 25 man life raft. No, no, no. Because you know what happens? I do. When the first one throws up, that's it's a bit I started my career on a passenger ferry as a steward. And you had one go and that was that there was a domino effect. If you're cleaning up for one on the on the run over to PTI, you're cleaning up. 30 or 40 weeks, you started on the Piii Faries. I'm originally from Pacto, so so that part that part of new. But I didn't. I'm just trying to like I've been on the ferry to PTI, and that is not a what I would consider a rough ride. And then we get the age difference. I was on the older vessels. My my my first boat was built in 1957. I was on the old Lord Selkirk. Yeah, but still a boat is the body of water in between here. And there is not a. And I've been on for the last crossing the day when the rest of the crossings are canceled. Oh. And when people start looking at the water coming over the open deck on the old Selkirk or the confederation saying, oh, this is great, we get a cruise to buy and we get a free car wash. Well, I would also save water, save you from swabbing all the decks after. Absolutely. It is hard to for me. All right. So, Mark, food, you would know. I've got lots of stories about sea sickness. People think, you know, fishermen can't swim in Newfoundland for some reason, but we couldn't afford swimming pools and the water was too cold to swim. And so fishermen go to sea and can't swim. I went to see and get severely seasick and on small boats and big boats, but not so much. But I've been so seasick. It's worse than any hangover drunk sickness I've ever had or what? What I usually tell people when I'm trying to relate seasickness is is because almost every adult is somewhere in your life. You have that hangover like I'm never drinking again, hangover, the heaves and all that stuff. But here's the thing with that hangover. Deep down in the soul of your being, you know that, first of all, you did this to yourself. Yeah. And self-inflicted. Second of all, if you can get through today and get a little water in the lake, tomorrow is it is a new day. Like there's there's a there's a bright future there. But with seasickness, take away that hope of tomorrow like that. That just doesn't exist. You just get sick once. Exactly. And then you're immediately in the in the queue to get sick again. And you say to yourself, I'm out here for 30 days and it's not going to get any better. So anyway, sailors are really mean, especially when you're new. And so I had one man, and this is a true story. He told me a sunny, you know, a cure for sea sickness. Go down and drink water out of a bill. She says you'll never get too sick again. That's what I did. And me, very naive, I guess, at the beginning, went down and looked down into the bill, not even humanly naive. It's gross anyway. So I said I'm not drinking that stuff, but I did think about it. I would have done anything to cure this sickness. That's but that tells you something like that's how it is. If you went if you went around on a on like a long cruise, hour long, like a let's say, an offshore deployment or something like that, if we went around on data on like our thirty or hour thirty six, if you went around with a revolver and said, all right, who's ready? Honest to God, most people would be like, yep, get pointed right in my ear. Don't miss it. I had another guy tell me, eat apples. He says that'll cure it. And the acidic x acidic ness from the apple. So my answer to your question is anything I would not eat anything acidic if I knew I had to aband the next day. So anything like apple juices or anything. Yeah. Avoid avoiding the fruit stuff. Oh, terrible. Yeah. Because anyway is soda crackers were my final my final answer for getting somewhat of a reprieve. But I tried it in the dopamine and I turned into a dope and I couldn't. Oh, dear. Am I correct in saying the soda crackers was really just so that when you did throw up, which was inevitable. It was relatively painless. Yeah, it sucked up whatever that acidic stuff was, to just make it a little bit better. It's. But she didn't feel like you had the dry heaves after you got some crackers in there. So anyway, my answer would be anything acidic, such as fruit juices and yeah, anything liquid like that, because I do know what that one is like. Well, being being the chief made on board the boat, I'm kind of like the mom or the high school guidance counselor at times. Do you know why sailors drink apple juice? I don't think I knew that sailor's drink apple juice, but OK, I'll bite. No, I don't. Unless you're with the polish, which is another conversation, the reason why sailors and seafarers will drink apple juice is taste exactly the same coming up as it does going down. Well, there is a certain weird logic there. Although I got to go with Mark on the the anti acid stuff. Yeah. When I when I thought like I've tried it. It seems you guys try this. Try that. And, you know, I go there with a full stomach and throw it up. Go there with an empty stomach, throw it up. I did find that when I had something, let's say, loose like a drive, a big extra large double double to me, something that would slosh around and that would bring it on worse. I would get it a lot worse than I was out. I used to race a lot of sailboats, Horder from Pacto to Sharlto. And there was a friend of my father's and I was seasick. I was bad. And we're on a 25 foot boat. And like Mark says, you know, smaller boats. There's a lot of more movement. Yeah. Yeah. And I was young enough and naive enough and seasick enough that Owen says to me, he says, well, you understand what the problem is. It's an IV fluid imbalance. So fluids in the water and the fluids in you. So if you have a glass of the seawater, oh, that would you know where this is going? Yeah. Who did this to you? A friend. A close friend of my father's sailors do that to each other institution big time. And again, I'm about 13 or 14. I'm willing to try. Well, at this point, you know, I'm still about six to eight hours away from Charlottetown, P.I. and I'm like, OK, I'll give this a try. I put the bucket. I put the glass of water. I get the sea water out of the Northumberland Strait. I take a drink out of it and immediately come right back up. And he just looks at me, deadpans is feeling better now. So he wanted to throw it. Yeah, that's that's a mean thing to do. Well, as Mark says, the seafarers will do absolutely nasty, mean things to each other at times, not available once it's, you know, just for our own entertainment. Thanks. Thanks for the clarification. So. Absolutely. I'm not doing this to be mean. I'm just doing it because it makes me laugh. So coming back from Norway, once we're in a bad, bad storm, we're headed for the Caribbean and we're somewhere at least your destination is an improvement. I mean, Norway is nice, but. Well, we've come below the. So the people below the Arctic Circle at this point, and we've had our circle ceremony. We've done a lot. And then we're somewhere west of the Shetland Islands. And I'm using the Shetlands as a. And if you've ever sailed up there, there's nothing there. It's like the Maglan Islands. There's just nothing there. So we're I think the weather's improved about 18 meters and the little 19 meters seas, 18 meters seas. And it it improved at that point. So, by the way, folks at home, there's your conversion. That's ballpark's, 60 foot waves. And if you're talking sustained 60 foot waves, which you're actually saying is that your peak waves are going to be another 20, 30 percent bigger or smaller than that. So you can you can see quite a lot more than that. I wasn't measuring them at that point, you know. So we're in about day three of this. And I still love driving a boat and the the watchman's up there with me. And he's absolutely he's white and he looks at me and says, Teef, can I use can I use the comfort room? And yeah, yeah. Yeah. You go use the bathroom. Go right ahead. He comes back and he's he's kind of clean himself off. Is he? It didn't all quite make when he threw up. He didn't all make it in the bathroom. I'm looking I'm like, do you want to take a take a walk around, go do a fire. Watch, go. Do you fire around? Take a moment. It's I do. Visibility's good. I'm OK for a little bit. You go collect yourself and hopefully don't throw up again on my bridge and come on back up. Unfortunately, when he went down to the cruise, there is the boatswain bosun's are cruel, nasty individuals. They run the duck with an iron fist. The boatswain's looking over at this guy and saying, so Caesar got his nose. The chief mate doesn't get sick. Yeah. You ever wonder why? Yeah. Well, he drinks fresh milk. Oh, well, we didn't have fresh milk because we're at sea. We can't get fresh milk. So we've got this long life stuff. Any time you take milk and you can put it on a shelf for a year to two years if it's not milk. So this guy is and let's be honest, I think we're splitting hairs here, whether it's fresh or not. I can see where this is going. Oh, absolutely. In goes in a bucket in a minute, Tony. This is this guy downs about a leader of this long life milk. And immediately it comes right back up like a boomerang. And now, I mean, the boatswain's now is entertainment for weeks. And the poor little guy's going to clean it up when he comes up to the bridge and says he looks at me and he's whiter than he was when he went down. He was a chief. Can I have a transfer to another boat? Yeah. Oh, I got it. I got a good story. We were at Sable Island drilling for oil and I was on a supply boat. And the jakab oil rig that we were servicing was stationary. So not moving and really foggy for about a week. No helicopters. So they decide to put people down onto our boat so that we can take them ashore. The passenger transport passenger travel line. So from a stationary jakab platform, they would come down this Billy Pew thing that you had to stand on and hang onto. And then they would land on the deck of our roll and boat and Sable Island. The water was only about 200 feet deep. So the waves are so different than the grand banks. The waves are fast. And it's a fast moving wave because just because it's shallow water and we hit I got to tell you, it was funny. It is funny. So we would watch the people as they got down trying to collect their suitcases, literally trying to find their sea legs and trying to walk from the back deck to the accommodation's. And we would. So we're talking one hundred feet. We would bet. Yeah, we would bet. Who would throw up that guy there? He's going to be the one that's going to throw up. No, no. I think it's this guy. So then we'd be watch it and watch it. Oh, there he goes. I want you know, we would bet on who's going to throw up on the way into the accommodation. And that was funny. But like it wasn't funny for them. No, no. Anybody. I mean, seasickness is weird because it is it is as miserable a person who is seasick. You would happily, happily sell your soul for even an hour or two of reprieve, like happily take it. Take my take. My whole families. I don't care. But but it doesn't kill you as miserable as it is. Well, what's the old joke? Right. At first, you're scared it's going to kill you and then you're not going to kill you. But but it doesn't. Right. So you can get through it. So that's why that's why there's a certain amount of I won't say guilt free to laughing at a seasick person, but, you know, like, you know, they're going to make it. Well, that's dirty, though. The milk thing. That's that's not nice. Oh, no, no, no. The boats and mean, though. Oh, that. All right. OK, here's one for you. Next question. You're going to have to survive. On an island, so we're talking like, you know, Tom Hanks cast Away Island, Shipwreck Island kind of thing. Right? A couple of trees, maybe the occasional seagull, a few fish, but there's really nothing on there. And again, can tuna in Iraq? Well, if if you if you thought to bring it, I frankly, I brought my knife. Thank you very much. One stupid can of tuna. All right. So here's the question. Famous person currently alive don't care who it is. Who do you want on that island with you and why? So we'll start with and we did JADI first last, so I think we're at Mark this time. Peter Gibbs, you want Peter Ghiorso, another star of this show, surviving on our island. You want him OK? Why? Well, he's the man that I would want to have on my side. If if it's a life or death situation, he's Kapila. You now keep it in mind. We have to we have to explore all the facets of this. So like one of my first ideas was like Shaquille O'Neal, because he's humongous. He's funny. And if I have to eat something later on, well, that guy's going to last me a while. But here's the problem with Shaquille O'Neal, is that what if he gets hungry? That's right. He's going to eat and he's big on this thing. So. So back to the Peter Gibbs statement now. I believe Peter Gibbs, he could make a mess of a person if he wanted to. And it would be nice to have him at your back in a fight. But I don't know that I want to be fighting him for the one siegle on the island or something like that. But he did not do nothing. He could also tell enough stories to keep you entertained for a lifetime. And he's going to attack you. He's going to attack it first. And, yeah, he's the first guy that pops in my mind. I don't know why he was supposed to be here in this group today. Really? He was busy. OK, well, OK. Well, that wasn't exactly what I had in mind. But. All right, we'll take that and we'll roll that. J.D., you got one. Being a child of the 70s and 80s, I got to have McGyver. I mean, he could he could oh, yeah. He could make, you know, like a turkey dinner out of. While that wouldn't duct tape glue, they'd be tumblers and almost glue. And his trusty jack knife, he would even he wouldn't even have a can of tuna and he can make dinner. It'd be peanut butter. Peanut butter surprise was I seen them use chewing gum wrapper like the aluminum wrapper and chewing gum to he the explosion. He used it there arko to wire from one to another to stop a bomb blowing up out saying, oh, that's a great idea. There are some there are some physics problems that they didn't bother to address on that show. You know, they made it you know, they redid that show. Yeah. And they got yeah, they did. And they got five seasons out of the new version of it. I tried to watch it. And it turned out to be a terrible mistake, because not only did I find the show appallingly bad, but my wife and daughter fell in love with it. So I had to put up with it any. And they loved it. They crushed it. They couldn't get enough of it. Can we can we get the next season? The guy who was a good looking guy, I don't know his name, too, but they were kind of girly guys. So he's pretty good man. Was pretty man. OK, now. Well, I guess I got to answer that question, too. Who's here? Friend. Now, you threw me for a loop. I was like thinking big, you know. But now I got to think, who can help me out, protect me? And you know, I can eat if I go terribly wrong. You know, after we have to look back, I probably want a sports star of some kind. Really? Yeah. Well, so with a sports star, you get somebody who, you know, is physically able, but you also. I also have this thing in my mind where like a sports star is the really good at one thing, and they've probably had a relatively easy run of it if you're enough to make it big as a sports star. So I feel like after a few days, their spirit is going to crumble a little bit. And there's my food for the next. Oh, so they've been great for a few days now. So I won't I won't pick a sports player in in particular at this point especially. I don't want a football player because they could they could they could be me doing like Andre the Giant or somebody like, oh, heavens, no, you need someone with survival training, someone who just knows how to. That's what we're supposed to do. We're supposed to be no hard core. We can do it for a week. You know, we can talk about it. All right. OK, I got one last question. And this is this is an important, important, important question. Are you getting these questions, by the way? They are really strange going. I mean. No, I made them up. Honest to God. Although this last question, I did get help from from a colleague. Oh, yeah. Well, I'll tell you guys offline later on. But so here's the last question. And it's a doozy. And this is to decide who wins the who wins the contest. I don't even know. Type. We're tired. Yeah, you're tired of. We're tired. All right. So here it is. Pick up lines to use on your rescuer. That's right. So so when whoever it is a Star Trek or somebody, Lauren or Peter Gibbs is clearly that's who Mark's got in his mind, is cooking up a fantasy right now, so. Oh, no, man. So what is the pickup line that you use on your resume? What is the what is a charming way that you try and flirt with your rescuer? He got a pretty helicopter, got a real dirty helicopter. You got a real pretty suit. What do you got? A pick up line. He just jumped into first place now. Yeah, he's I got to come up with something good. So you have. How are we being rescued? So obviously it's a female. This is you know, it could be OK. It could be again. I mean, I didn't I didn't bring up Peter Gibbs. You did so. But I am in love with the. Come on. It's been a long time in a life raft. But you sure don't resent can be a female. It can be whatever you want. Okay. Let's say it's JDI. Oh, no. Where you been all my life? I don't know. It's hard and it's hard to think of something off the cuff. Yeah, it is. Yeah. I wouldn't have to use that when I'm teaching from now on. Yeah. Well, it's it's a if you're going to be rescued, you might as well at least give some gratification to the person who's doing the rescue. Well, I got one. I can say, hey, honey, you're from you must be from Kentucky because you're the only ten. I see. Tennessee got. Oh, that's a bad pickup line. I tried that once and it didn't work. The more I think about, the more I like it. So sooner or later, that's going to make it into my. See what the wife says to that one later on. Tennessee. OK. All right. Well, we'll we'll call that a draw, because those are both some good pickup lines. And with that, that was yours again. Yeah, I got it. Pretty Alako. I like that one. I'm going to give that one to him. I like when he I like I like the accent he throws. Yeah. That accent is kind of like a little creepy. And if you if you want, you know, we can do a bonus question. Oh, no. We already kind of did that one. I was going to say, if you were going to survive in the woods and you could pick a famous person alive or dead, but we sort of covered that already. So we'll skip that. OK, well, that's probably a good place. What about you? What about you? Your pick up line? Oh, you got to do something here. Oh, a pickup line. Yeah. Jeez, I don't need a pickup line. I remember you telling me the story about Survivor and how when when the contestants hadn't taken a bath or shower for a very long time, that. So I can just picture me being on a desert island for a long time and not having taken a bath or a shower and a real stinky. And I don't think any pickup line would work. Well, it depends which side you're on and what you're you know, what your standards are. That was weird that people don't realize that about the show. Those the people, when they when they get to location, they're all, you know, froufrou, groomed and waxed and buffed and teeth are all shiny everything. And then they have to, you know, get kicked off a boat or whatever into the water. And then they're on some weird location for a while. It doesn't take very long. Right. Take away. Take away your tweezers and your clippers and your, you know, your scissors and all that stuff. And it only takes a little while before all that stuff comes back in. And it's a pretty manky. And some of them there was some early contestants that were very much clothes optional. Oh, yeah. And yeah, the first couple of seasons, the first season, I think that the guy that won the first season just had to. Yeah, well, OK. Since you guys remember it, here's here's here's the one survivor survivor story you get for today. So the first show I worked on was the all star show, the first all star show. Oh, yeah. OK, so that's when they brought a bunch of the different winners and fan favorites from the first four seven seasons back, of whom Richard Hatch is one of them. Oh, yeah. So I arrive on set and I'm teaching a teaching. I'm running this boat, that boat, and kind of bouncing around in different boats and different jobs. But what they quickly decided they wanted to do with me was assigned me to one on what they call a tribe boat. So what they try and do for the people that are on the beaches. So the tribes, like the contestants, they try and maintain the illusion of isolation. So you get this tribe over here and this tribe over here and this tribe over here. And what they're trying do is make it so that the same producers and the same boat and the same skipper are the same people that the see all the time so that they don't understand. There's a crew of 400 people. Oh, right. That is, you know, on a different island, ten miles away kind of thing. So I get assigned to this tribe and guess who's in the tribe? Hatch, Richard Hatch among among several others. So one of the first days that I'm taking them to challenge. So which is a big event on the show, right. Like so, you know, there's lots of movements that are going back and forth and camera crews, producers back and forth to the beaches all the time. That's mostly what you do. But when it's challenged, which they've spent, you know, a lot of time setting up, now you go, you've got a special ceremony, you know, a special sort of format for picking up the contestants at the beach and the way we were doing it at this particular beach, because it's a shallow beach. We actually had to throw our anchor off the bow and then put the bow stern in, Jerry. Yeah, that's right. And that way we could get in close enough that they could basically just climb over the back of the boat. So now you've got a picture. This my deckhand is actually in the water climbing the hold, sort of holding the boat in place. The bow is is. Pointed out away from the shore with the anchor, and I'm standing at the back of the boat and I'm kind of, you know, giving one hand to the people as they board and, you know, passing them to my other hand and kind of passing them on into the boat. And so, you know, if you can if you can walk through that motion with me. Right, you're taking one hand here or three where this is going to go. I'm terrified. I'm not like of this story. So, so and then with my other hand, kind of pass them on to the boat. And I've already extended my first hand back to where? You can see where this is going. So I pass a couple of people and then Mr. Close optional Richard Hatch is climbing up the back of the boat. And I've, of course, already extended my hand back there to help him on the boat without looking to see who it was. And he knew exactly what was going on and knew exactly what was going to happen and purposely stood up on the boat in such a way that my hand went to a place that I don't ever, ever, ever want it to go or think about going. And he laughed his ass off and I washed my hands and peroxide and acid for for the next week or so. So he and I was much younger, prettier back then. So I you know, I think maybe that's why he did it, or maybe he just did it for a laugh. But who knows? That's a good story. I like it. All right. So, folks, on that note, we will wrap up this episode of Legacy Survival Stories as fun. Thanks a lot for having us. Thank you very much for coming, gents. So we can do it like this. We might end up doing this a little more often this year. We have Peter Gibbs. Thanks, but we'll try with. Do do do you want any of the rest of us here or do you just want to know if it was just the two of them alone on the island with a tuna? Can you two in a can of tuna? Yeah. OK, folks. So thanks again. Thanks for listening. And we'll see you next time on legacy survival stories. Take care. You can find us on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Amazon Music, Stitcher and almost anywhere you can find podcasts. Please subscribe and help us move up the charts with a five star rating. If you have a story to tell or know of someone who does, please contact us at legacy survival stories. All one word at Gmail dot com. You can also find us at legacy survival stories. Dot Buzz, Sproat dot com. And you go down. Go down. So now we have the legacy of survival stories.